Wacko among wackos
The US has Al Gore. UK has James Lovelock. And Australia has Tim Flannery, the author of “The Weather Makers”. Tim Flannery, an expert on global warming, has now revised updated his climate forecast for the world, and it’s much worse than he thought just three years ago.
According to Professor Flannery, climate change is happening so quickly that mankind might need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive. The gas sulphur could be inserted into the earth’s stratosphere to keep out the sun’s rays and slow global warming, a process called global dimming.
“It would change the colour of the sky,” Professor Flannery says in Melbourne’s The Age. “It’s the last resort that we have, it’s the last barrier to a climate collapse.”
Regardless of what happens to future emissions, there is already far too much greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Simply cutting emissions is not enough. Mankind now had to take greenhouse gases out of the air. “The current burden of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is in fact more than sufficient to cause catastrophic climate change,” Professor Flannery says.
Appropriately enough, next to the article in The Age is a Google ad linking to a free book on prophecy from www.the-end.com. The title is “2008 - God’s Final Witness”. I couldn’t possibly imagine a better product placement.
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OMG! I saw the sky change colour last night. It went RED like BLOOD!!!
The sun fell out of the sky and it all went black!
Luckily I spent a few hundred Euro’s on some Carbon Credits and made the sun rise again. I saved the world!
(Very Sarcastic)
Found this, the slight side effects of a sky full of Sulphur:
- Neurological effects and behavioral changes
- Disturbance of blood circulation
- Heart damage
- Effects on eyes and eyesight
- Reproductive failure
- Damage to immune systems
- Stomach and gastrointestinal disorder
- Damage to liver and kidney functions
- Hearing defects
- Disturbance of the hormonal metabolism
- Dermatological effects
- Suffocation and lung embolism
Prof Flannery has been overdoing his field model I think.
http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=10761
Australian of the Year 2007 - Jezuz ….. makes me sick
Thank you for the tip. Ordered his book: let’s see what he has to say.
Peter Stilbs { 05.22.08 at 10:36 am }
http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=10761
Australian of the Year 2007 - Jezuz ….. makes me sick
A friend that already had read his book said: “In my view Flannery is a complete con man. His book is the most superficial nonsense I have read. I agree, this is lunatic nonsense.”
Hm - Mats - perhaps you are wasting your money ?
I don’t mind spending money if it sheds light on how people are thinking. There are extreme arguments on both sides of this issue and I want to know all of them. The most neutral account to my mind, though, is “Climate Change” by William Burroughs. He doesn’t take sides (don’t let the polar bears on the cover fool you…) but focus on the challenges to science and there are many…
I am of the view that we really cannot do anything to persuade Mother Nature to suspend her natural cycles of heat and cold. We should be spending Carbon Hysteria Cash into funding research into cleaner coal power/more efficient nuclear power/waste incinerator power/solar power and scrap wind power/bio fuels and encourage more GM food production. Eliminate malaria by using DDT [Greens responsible for 45 million unnecessary deaths by outlawing DDT]
That should help.
I can see there are opposite positions in the cause of global warming: human causes according to increase of CO2 emissions, and natural causes according to the increase of the amount of cosmic energy in the solar system making changes in the sun, and any other planet too.
In any case, it seems there’s no doubt about global warming. If that the case, the money must be wasted in figure out how to adapt to the changes, and to find out which is really causing it, and avoid it if it’s possible.
From my point of view (I can’t demonstrate this), the earth is changing at different levels, including us, humans. We are part of nature, and part of the earth, so any change in any part of this system affect it all.
It has been registered important changes in the magnetic field of the earth, which affects directly and immediately any part of this big system GAIA: climate, humans, animals, vegetation, etc. It seems that this variable is not being taken into consideration as it must be, like many others.
We are passing through many crises: values, energy, food, water, climate, etc. All of them are evident now, there’s no doubt. We need to change our mind to find the solution; we need to evolve, and must be now. All these changing events will make us to evolve to survive to the new GAIA. We need to make us more conscientious of ourselves and what surround us, about life.
I believe the solutions to the problems we are facing are already discovered, known, at any level.
Enjoy life and feel GAIA as part of us.
You are SO sadly wrong, clinging to beliefs that parallel Witchery and Dragons. Most ‘crises’ are media led. GAIA is about as real as a mirage. How arrogant to think Mankind can ‘Engineer’ the planet’s climate. Climb off the pulpit Parh and contact reality. If this Planet had a brain [which you imply] then surely we would never have evolved?
BRIAN. As you say “Most ‘crises’ are media led.”, but not all of them. In the same way, most of the crises can be solved by us…. or may be almost all of them?(including the ones we don’t even imagine). I consider mankind will be able to “engineer” the planet’s climate, but something must happen before of that: make ourselves more conscientious. However, I don’t believe it’s necessary to “engineer” the planet in any way, I prefer nature does it.
I’m not saying the planet has a BRAIN, that’s your interpretation of my words. Actually, the planet is a living system which has mechanism to control itself as any system, as well as integrated to the cosmos as any other planet.
parh: quote “Actually, the planet is a living system which has mechanism to control itself as any system, as well as integrated to the cosmos as any other planet.”
That must be why 99.9% of all species are now extinct? As we will be no doubt in the distant future.
Planets just obey physical laws don’t they? As does the cosmos [so far as we know] Planets do not ‘adjust’ they merely exist.
I disagree with you. Planets do adjust, and that is what planet EARTH, GAIA, is doing right now. We must adapt ourselves to these changes.
GAIA is about as credible as perpetual motion. Just another religion.
That is something that is a faith and not a fact. Apply Occam’s Razor.
What it is a fact for some people because they use a scientific method to prove it; it’s a faith for others because they don’t have enough knowledge. So I understand GAIA could be a faith for you.
parh: You can ‘Prove’ GAIA is a scientific fact???? You must be a Lovelock Luvvie. You will only achieve “GAIA-na” when all humans have been eliminated then, after all we are responsible for all the planetary ills, isn’t that the Lovelock Mantra? Even if I had Al Gore’s carbon footprint it would not affect anything on this planet. I am all for less pollution but CO2 is not a polluter, it is a fertilizer. GAIA means nothing as it is a figment of someone’s imagination, as are the varied Religions that exist. : )
Brian,
Yes, I can “prove” GAIA is a scientific fact. Again, we see the world according to our knowledge and conscience. We can agree o disagree, that’s relative, the important thing is that you question and observe what you are and what surrounds you. I don’t need any climate specialist to tell me that recently there have been important changes where I live. I have registered in a scientific mode. Some changes are obvious, but it doesn’t necessary mean the climate or any other big change is going on. However, some others give you specific information that you can ensure the change is happening. It’s up to you. Take the chance.
“Yes, I can “prove” GAIA is a scientific fact.” - parh, you are unique then!
” I have registered in a scientific mode.” - What on earth does that mean?
“It’s up to you. Take the chance.” - I am, I’m preparing for lots of very cold weather.
GAIA - Generic Atmospheric Insane Asylum
Brian, I guess you have seen the movie “The Day after tomorrow”. You are right the weather will be much colder in the north of the planet. It seems one of the purposes of that movie was to simulate an extreme weather change scenario, so people would easily understand how the “climate thing” works. By the way, you can be prepared for anything but only when things happen you will be able to confirm it.
parh: Quote “By the way, you can be prepared for anything but only when things happen you will be able to confirm it.”
Well you said it Parh, so why are you using computer predictions to ” “Prove” Anthropogenic Global Warming? When so far the AGP predictions are way off the mark and getting more so by the month.
I haven’t seen The Day After Tomorrow any more than I have listened to Al Gore’s speeches. The first few frames/sentences were enough for me to find something meaningful to do.
Parh, do you know the story about King Canute, his people, the tide and Canute’s Throne?
I don’t know much about King Canute (knud). A viking but also king of England? What about it?. I can say you inspire me. This dialog is turning out of the scope of the site. It’s fine for me, but I’m not sure about the others. You should see the movie “The day after tomorrow” with “scientific eyes”. I apologise for my English, it’s not my mother tongue.
parh: King Canute had bags of commonsense [sadly lacking today] and showed his subjects he was like them and not a God. Got very wet proving he had no control over Mother Nature.
Al Gore and his Green/Carbon cronies seem to think they can control Nature. And we are being fleeced with taxes that are fraudulent and unnecessary. That’s it.
PS Your English is excellent BTW
think the climate is changing naturally, and not because of human activities. However this natural cycle doesn’t have to be one of the most frequently one. I agree with you about the suspect of “taxes that are fraudulent and unnecessary”. If we must spend money in something, it should be to adapt our way of living to the changes of nature. It doesn’t sound good for me to adapt nature to us, whether we can or not.
I should add something else. It doesn’t sound good for me to adapt nature to us, whether we can or not. But we can stop affecting nature in some way. This doesn’t mean to change nature, just affect it in a proper way. Our conscience will say what it’s proper or not.
parh: Take the Californian redwood Sequoia sempervirens. It grows really high - 350+feet in places. It has no lower branches and its seeds germinate when the cones dry out after a forest fire. The bark is fire resistant and the wood is too. Does that not tell you that Sequoia sempervirens has evolved over millions of years [and fires!] and that when you see fires in California [always attributed to "Global Warming" ] remember the redwoods evolved because of massive fires and not a human being in existence! All that smoky pollution too!
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